October 3, 2021 at 6:53 am
“Nutjobs like sklyd, who are justifying this insanity here in this comment section give us a glimpse into the mind of the fanatic nazi.”
fanatic Nazi, ? how do you know I am not a Jew or have lost family members in the Holocaust? obviously you do not care because it had no real impact on you.
[Sklyjd doesn’t know me and I’m pretty certain that he cannot read my mind.
So, HOW DOES HE KNOW that I don’t care and that it has no impact on me?
What utter stupidity. Complaining that I operate on assumptions and then he goes on and operates … on assumptions.
Statements like these led me to the conclusion that he’s not too bright.
Anyway, whether he’s a Jew or not is completely irrelevant. I guess, he never heared of “Patrol 36”, an Israeli, Jewish neo-nazi group. I am also aware that there are Jews who are ok with vaccine mandates aka forced vaccination with a “vaccine” that is still experimental. Forcing people to take experimental drugs is a violation of the Nürnberg code which was a reaction to the monstrous medical experiments of the nazi regime.]
You rave on about Australian violence when you condone gun ownership for all including the nutters who extract vengeance with an automatic weapon in schools and shopping centres and then also condemn the people who demonstrate against your own US police brutality when deaths have occurred. Double standards I would say.
[What a joke.
Sklyjd is making stuff up and then he’s attacking the stuff he’s making up.
That’s a logical fallacy called the strawman argument.
I want gun ownership for all EXCEPT criminals and psychos.
Obviously, he’s clueless. Automatic weapons are banned in the US. Only semi-automatic weapons are legal.
Again, he’s making stuff up.
I’m not against peaceful demonstrations. I’m against violent riots and against uneccesary police brutality.
While the Australian police is using excessive force against people who merely want to exert their basic human rights, BLM and antifa were engaged in violent riots, looting and burning.]
“Those who kept a modicum of sanity, refusing to fear a virus not much more dangerous than a bad flu,”
Facts do matter, but you clearly do not want to learn anything and understand the facts, whatever your source of information and your belief this is not the flu.
[This dude can’t help pretending to know my mind, phantasizing about my motives. Pathetic!
Has this guy any idea how idiotic his statements are?
Estimated infection fatality rates are 0.1% for the flu and 0.2% to 0.67% for the wuhan virus.
Here’s the paper for the 0.2% estimate. We are not talking about orders of magnitude in difference here.
It’s worth noting that fatality rates are not set in stone.
The more patients are treated successfully, the lower the fatality rate.
The more patients die because of wrong treatment or no treatment at all, the higher the fatality rate.
Sending infected persons into nursing homes, as happened in the USA and in Germany, needlessly drives fatality rates up.
I’ve heared of cases where infected persons were sent home by the hospital. “There is nothing we can do, Go home and selfquarantine. If it’s getting worse come back.”
When it’s getting worse and the person is put on the ventilator it’s too late. Instead of treating persons as early as possible with drugs such as ivermectin, people needlessly died because they were denied these cheap therapeutics.
Withholding such therapeutics from patients is insane and criminal. Even if their efficacy was not as great as one hopes it would be, these are very safe drugs. You have nothing to lose. Even If they don’t work, no damage is done.
There was a time before the wuhan virus insanity, when information about ivermectin was not completely politizised and you could read in a scientific paper published in 2011: “Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training. “
Bottom line: By using the right therapeutics mortality can be definitely reduced further, making the mortality difference even smaller.]
You should go to the you tube videos or talk to a nurse who works in a Covid effected area where people are dying and regretting not getting vaccinated,
[Videos like this one?
in Victoria people are begging for a vaccination as they are put onto a ventilator while hospital beds are used up preventing other sick people from cancers and heart diseases who cannot be treated. Many who beat the virus have ongoing medical problems for life.
[In my mind I can hear the chorus sing “Carmina Burana” and I can see apocalyptic visions of pestilence and death. Notice, when sklyd runs out of good arguments he stoops to the lowest level of cheap emotionalism. No data, numbers and worst of all: no critical thinking.
Spreading fear and panic is no replacement for a rational argument based on facts and science.
First, guys like sklyjd didn’t seem to care when the goverments in many countries (incl. Australia) caused the same effects by ordering hospitals to cancel elective procedures or procedures deemed not that essential (like breast cancer screenings).
In other words: If the unvaccinated, allegedly, cause misery then they are uncaring and evil.
If the goverment causes misery then it’s all for the common good and the goverment’s motives are pure and noble.
Our “pure and noble” goverments are firing health care workers who refuse to get “vaccinated” at the same time they are accusing the unvaccinated of overburdening the hospitals.
Either our goverments are evil and they are willingly causing resource shortages or they are lying or they are just insane.
Second, when it comes to infectious diseases, there are always these options:
1. Prevent people from getting the disease.
2. Use therapeutics to neutralize the damaging effects of the disease.
3. Use vaccines that enable people to fight the disease effectively.
4. Eliminate or reduce factors that make the disease more severe.
5. Create or increase factors that make the disease less severe.
Most goverments have willingly and deliberately limited their options to #1 and #3. These goverments are criminal and negligent and they are to blame for making the disease worse than it needs to.
A notable, positive exception is the goverment of India’s Uttar Pradesh state.
Trough the widespread prophylactic and therapeutical use of ivermectin they were able to reduce the number of new infections to practically zero.
A notable, egregious example for criminal malfeasance is Australia’s goverment. They have banned the use of ivermectin as treatment/prophylactic for the wuhan virus.
Third, there is a glaring moral inconsistency that strangely enough no one seems to notice.
The unvaccinated are singled out for using up too many hospital resources.
Yet no one singles the obese out for using up too many hospital resources.
We know that obesity is a risk factor for the disease.
If those who stay unvaccinated are blamed for needlessly using up hospital resources then why not blaming those who won’t reduce their obesity for the same thing?
Isn’t it obvious? It’s not about ending the pandemic. It’s about pushing the vaccines.]
Yes if I am a fanatic Nazi you are simply uncaring and wanting to stay an ignorant freedom fighting foolish man.
[If that sounds idiotic it’s because it is idiotic. Why is it idiotic? Claiming that people like me who oppose his point of view are uncaring, completely ignores the fact that we have parents, siblings or children too. Only an idiot would assume that all of us don’t care about the people we love most.
He calls those “uncaring” who oppose the nonsensical, unscientific, coercive policies. Why, then, was no one calling for masks and lockdowns all these years when th flu killed people? Was the overwelming majority of people, himself included, uncaring then? What is the magic number of people that have to die in order to flip the switch and to become suddenly a “caring person” who calls for extreme measures? I’m pretty certain that this dude cannot answer these questions honestly but to merely ask these questions is enough to expose his statement as utter bullcrap.
Equally idiotic is the claim that I want to stay ignorant when it is I who not only consider facts from one side but from many sources while sklyd is unable to think ouside the goverment propaganda.
Furthermore, sklyd presents us with a false dichotomy. It’s not either liberty OR life. It’s liberty AND life. As I’ve mentioned before, our goverments have deliberately chosen to use only lockdowns, masks and vaccinations and to completely forgo all other options.
That’s why liberty OR life is a false choice.
Sklyds utter disdain for freedom pretty much proves my point. He shares the same disdain for freedom with the nazis.
As for being foolish, I think I have shown who is foolish here.]
Absolutely nothing is 100% safe.
[Thanks for proving my point. Because of that we should go on with our lives as normally as possible and accept the miniscule risk of getting severely sick from the wuhan virus.]
These and every other vaccine can and will cause some adverse reactions in a small percentage of people, so does eating food, because one in 100,000 people will die from a food related illness in the USA every year. Crossing the road 6,721 pedestrians were killed on U.S. roads in 2020.
Taking a vaccine is a very small amount of personal risk exactly comparable with the everyday things we do.
[Sklyd is blatandly lying. How do I know that he’s lying?
Because the “vaccines” have been barely a year around and absolutely NO ONE knows what the long term effects are. They are still experimental.]
The benefit of the greater society and loved family and friends matter and are just as important as your own health. People would be able to understand that in the past but it appears today some people are just too self absorbed in their own selfish agenda to care.
[Here, Sklyd displays again his collectivist mindset which he shares with the nazis.
He disgusts me. Calling people wo want to be free selfish is the height of hypocrisy and mendacity.
Why does he not just kill himself? By killing himself he would make 100% certain that he doesn’t spread the virus. The answer is: He is selfish.
He also enjoys the fruits of the liberty he so despises. The enormous advances of technology, science and medicine are the fruits of a capitalist system that is based an economic FREEDOM. Killing freedom results in a decline of technology, science, medicine and material wealth which in turn reduces life expectancy and leads to the deaths of MORE PEOPLE. We can witness this phenomenon in all socialist, collectivist sh*tholes which presume to know better than the people what is good for the people themselves.The problem with collectivism is: Who determines what the common good is?
The temptation for the rulers to confuse their own good with the common good is simply too great.
Even if the goverment had the best of intentions, it is impossible for the goverment to know what is good for all people or even most people because every individual is unique and human beings are just too divers.
For this reason you won’t usually see doctors on TV prescribing the same remedy for all.
They always caution that you should first consult with your doctor because he knows your medical situation best. This simple wisdom has, in the collective psychosis that has gripped the world, gone out the window.]